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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Krauthammer is on the Petraeus/Benghazi trail….. and he’s right on target – Dead Center Mass.

Again, the most important aspect to any discussion of events and research comes back to the timeline.   Petraeus gave his testimony briefing on Sept. 14th.  More after the video:



Transcript: I think the really shocking news today was that General Petraeus thought and hoped he could keep his job. He thought that it might and it would be kept secret, and that he could stay in his position. I think what that tells us is really important.
It meant that he understood that the FBI obviously knew what was going on. He was hoping that those administration officials would not disclose what had happened, and therefore hoping that he would keep his job. And that meant that he understood that his job, his reputation, his legacy, his whole celebrated life was in the hands of the administration, and he expected they would protect him by keeping it quiet.
And that brings us to the ultimate issue, and that is his testimony on September 14. That’s the thing that connects the two scandals, and that’s the only thing that makes the sex scandal relevant.
Otherwise it would be an exercise in sensationalism and voyeurism and nothing else.
The reason it’s important is here’s a man who knows the administration holds his fate in its hands, and he gives testimony completely at variance with what the Secretary of Defense had said the day before, at variance with what he’d heard from his station chief in Tripoli, and with everything that we had heard. Was he influenced by the fact that he knew his fate was held by people within the administration at that time?
Of course it was being held over Petraeus’s head, and the sword was lowered on Election Day. You don’t have to be a cynic to see that as the ultimate in cynicism.
As long as they needed him to give the administration line to quote Bill, everybody was silent. And as soon as the election’s over, as soon as he can be dispensed with, the sword drops and he’s destroyed. I mean, can you imagine what it’s like to be on that pressure and to think it didn’t distort or at least in some way unconsciously influence his testimony?   That’s hard to believe.

Here’s why what Krauthammer outlines makes so much sense.


The FBI investigation initially began around the end of May.   According to Petraeus,  the affair with Broadwell ended around July/August.

We also know with specific certainty, because of the FBI reporting, that Jill Kelley was back-channeling information to Petraeus about Broadwell being the source of the threatening/alarming e-mails.  Kelley most certainly would have told Petraeus the FBI was the source of the finding as substantive collaboration for her information about Broadwell.
So shortly after Kelley knew the source was Broadwell, so too did David Petraeus.
We also know that in August (around the same date Petraeus broke off the affair) that Eric Holder was informed of the investigation of Broadwell that had now shown Petraeus and Broadwell were having an affair.
So why was Petraeus in complete contradiction to the other intelligence sources on September 14th?   Why was Petraeus the only person aligning the White House narrative about the impetus of the attack in Benghazi?   It is prudent to go back and review what was reported at the time.   Again, this is September 14th.
[...] Islamic militants who may have links to Al Qaeda used the opportunity to launch an attack, CIA Director David Petreaus told the House Intelligence Committee today according to one lawmaker who attended a closed-door briefing.
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House Intel committee, said Petraeus laid out “a chronological order exactly what we felt happened, how it happened, and where we’re going in the future.”
“In the Benghazi area, in the beginning we feel that it was spontaneous – the protest- because it went on for two or three hours, which is very relevant because if it was something that was planned, then they could have come and attacked right away,” Ruppersberger, D-Md., said following the hour-long briefing by Petraeus. “At this point it looks as if there was a spontaneous situation that occurred and that as a result of that, the extreme groups that were probably connected to al Qaeda took advantage of that situation and then the attack started.”
Petraeus did not speak to reporters on his way in or out of the briefing. When he left the meeting, the former four-star general was trailed by about a dozen intelligence officials and a couple of Capitol police officers.
Members of the Senate Armed Services Committee were also briefed today [Sept 14th] by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Vice Chair of the Joint Chiefs Admiral James Winnefeld. But senators emerging from that private briefing reported that they believed the attack in Libya was premeditated.
“It was a terrorist attack organized and carried out by terrorists,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the top Republican on the committee said, adding that about 15 “al Qaeda or radical Islamists” were armed with rocket-propelled grenades and other lethal weapons.
“This was a calculated act of terror on the part of a small group of jihadists, not a mob that somehow attacked and sacked our embassy,” McCain said. “People don’t go to demonstrate and carry RPGs and automatic weapons.” 
The House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Service Committee were briefed within 24 hours of each other.   September 13th and  September 14th.
At the closed House briefing Petraeus was selling the Mohammed movie story.   In the close Senate briefing Panetta was selling a contradictory Terrorist story.
Surely Director Petraeus and Defense Sec. Panetta had the same information by Tuesday 9/13.     It is incredulous to think otherwise.   In the Obama CBS interview on 9/12 he even said the entire security apparatus were working on “the same set of details” trying to locate the people who carried out the attacks.
What Krauthammer outlines makes sense.   Petraeus was being set up ‘the Chicago Way’ as cover for the White House Mohammed movie, ignore al-Qaeda, which continued to be sold publicly by the White House well over a week longer.  Including the numerous Sunday talk shows by Susan Rice on Sunday 18th.
Petraeus kept quiet…. well,….. until…… his intelligence department came under attack……..  then he defended his department to ABC’s Jake Tapper:

Look at the date of this TWEET October 26th – Within this Tapper report.
Now consider this recent part of the storyline in a highly parsed AP report.
Broadwell and Petraeus have each been questioned by FBI agents twice in recent weeks, with both acknowledging the affair in separate interviews.  The FBI’s most recent interviews with Broadwell and with Petraeus both occurred during the week  of Oct. 29, days before the election, one of the law enforcement officials said.  
It is obvious now that Petraeus knew of the investigation into Broadwell when it was happening (via Kelley) – and the affair being linked to it.  This might have been the issue that ended the affair.
It is obvious and widely reported that Eric Holder was informed of the affair in August.  It stretches the limits of plausibility to think Holder did NOT tell President Obama in an election year, 3 months before the election, that the Director of the CIA  was found as a separate party to have an extramarital affair with the subject of an FBI investigation.
It is obvious that Petraeus was telling the House Committee something in complete contradiction to his own known accurate intelligence on 9/14.
It is also obvious that the same timeframe when Petraeus says “whooah, wait a minute”…. “No one at any level in the CIA told anyone not to assist“, was the same timeframe when he was questioned for the last time by the FBI….
Initially I did not think there was a trail of Pertraeus being influenced that lead to the White House.   However, I think I have changed my mind (evolved)……  Perhaps Broadwell’s dad is right when he says “there is much, much more yet to come out of this story“….

Rep. Chaffetz: How did DOJ get the Petraeus scandal emails, and how didn’t Obama know?


Utah Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz told The Daily Caller major questions have yet to be answered about the sex scandal surrounding former CIA Director David Petraeus – and that congressional investigators plan to get answers.

“What we don’t know is whether those [emails] given [to FBI and DOJ officials] voluntarily, or if they went and got some sort of subpoena,” Chaffetz, a member of the House judiciary and oversight committees, said in a phone interview. “Either way would allow them access to that information.”

When asked if he thinks the FBI illegally hacked certain email accounts in the course of its investigation, Chaffetz said he thinks that’s “a legitimate question that is yet unanswered.”

“Were they given voluntarily? Was there a subpoena involved? The FBI is not going to get engaged in this, if this is simply some female upset at another female,” Chaffetz told TheDC.

“There needs to be something more to it. That’s why there are such big question marks at this point. I think it’ll play out in due time. We’re going to ask tough questions in the oversight committee and judiciary committee — and we’ll see. But we need a little bit of time for this play out.”

Chaffetz, a right-hand man of House oversight committee chairman Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, also said he suspects the White House is playing politics.

“I think the timing is suspicious, as to when this all came to light,” Chaffetz said. “That didn’t seem right.”
The Utah congressman said he finds it hard to believe the president really wasn’t aware of the apparent investigation into Petraeus’ behavior until after the election, as the White House claims.

“It would disturb me if there was anything involving the CIA director that didn’t go immediately to the president of the United States,” Chaffetz said. “This rises to the level of national concern, that the president should have been personally engaged in this. It’s not as if Gen. Petraeus was the head of Fish and Wildlife. He was the head of the CIA, for goodness sakes.”

“So, I do not understand why the chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees were not briefed, nor do I understand why they wouldn’t share that information immediately with the president of the United States,” he added. “For the White House to claim the first they heard about it was after the election seems implausible.”

Chaffetz told TheDC he suspects the Petraeus sex scandal and the questions surrounding the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi are connected.

“What I hope to understand is how they [Petraeus’ scandal and the Benghazi scandal] overlap,” he said. “The CIA director’s perspective on the Benghazi scandal is paramount. I still think he should testify sooner rather than later. There is a strong intersection. I just can’t fully define it yet.”

Chaffetz said he was “absolutely” troubled that information about private emails between numerous individuals — including Petraeus’ biographer, Paula Broadwell, and Petraeus family friend Jill Kelley — have been leaked, potentially harming their reputations irreparably.  

The Obama administration has been investigated for leaking politically convenient information to the press in the past, leading Chaffetz to suspect that the Justice Department may not have properly handled this case.
“On the one hand – specific to Libya – the administration said they wouldn’t release any information until an investigation is conducted. But, then, for their own political convenience, they have personally given out tidbits of information without the American public being able to see the full picture,” Chaffetz said.

“Go to the State Department website for instance – they put up briefings there [that] they have given to the media. They don’t even identify who from the State Department spoke – it’s just, ‘State Department spokesman number one, State Department spokesman number two.’ How does the media stand for that? But then they put it up on the official State Department website, so you got to believe they think it’s accurate.”

“It’s obvious they’ve put politics before transparency.”

Obama to Hold Press Conference Tuesday to Lie Some More Talk About Benghazi Protest Massacre

Obama to Hold Press Conference Wednesday to Lie Some More Talk About Benghazi Protest Massacre
 
 This ought to be good.
Maybe the media will break the news of some more sexy emails from some general to distract the public?
That would be big news.
Don’t expect the Obama-media to ask him about his Benghazi lies.

Blood on her hands – Hillary Clinton to skip Benghazi hearings to visit ‘friends’ in Australia for wine tasting on your tax dollars

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The only way to force Hillary Clinton (or Gen. Petraeus) to testify during the Benghazi hearings on Thursday is to subpoena them. It doesn’t seem like the GOP has any cojones to bother, as neither of the two have been mentioned by the GOP. Hillary Clinton, who has blood dripping from her hands over Benghazi is too busy to ‘voluntarily’ testify at the Thursday hearings. Instead, she will be busy on our tax dime, partying it up with friends in Australia and ‘wine tasting.’

And guess what, you are paying for it!

Jay Carney: White House Did Not Know About Petraeus Scandal Until Wednesday After Election (Video)

It’s an Obama world…
Jay Carney told reporters today that the White House did not know about the investigation of the CIA Director until after the election on Wednesday.
“I’d refer you to the FBI. They have protocols in place on when to notify legislative and executive branches on investigations. It is simply a fact that the White House was not aware of the situation with General Petraeus.
Uh-huh.

Carney went on to tell reporters that Obama is going to focus on jobs.
Another lie.

Report: Obama Asks Holder to Stay for Second Term

 

He's back. President Barack Obama reportedly asked Eric Holder to stay as attorney general after he's inaugurated for a second term, and the controversial Cabinet head agreed.

“I don’t know if everyone in the White House wants him [Holder] to stay, but the important guy does, and that’s all that matters,” a source told the New York Post.

Mr. Holder is one of the most controversial attorney generals in history. His Department of Justice is responsible for Fast & Furious, the gun walking operation that placed over 2,000 guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. These guns are connected to the deaths of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and over 300 Mexican citizens. Hundreds of guns are still missing. Another gun walking operation out of Dallas, TX is connected to the death of ICE Agent Jaime Zapata.

In July, the House of Representatives voted to hold Mr. Holder in contempt of Congress for not complying with an October 2011 subpoena over documents concerning Fast & Furious.

Mr. Holder also failed to sentence the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation in 2008 and suggested 9/11 terrorists be prosecuted in New York City. His agency raided the factory of the Gibson guitar company twice without ever bringing charges, eventually settling on a $350,000 payout to the government and environmental agencies. Breitbart News revealed Holder told an audience in 1995 that young people should be "brainwashed" to hold negative attitudes about owning guns.

Holder wondered last Thursday whether he has enough energy to serve through Obama's next term, but the world may now know the answer to that question.

Obama Hosts Bono, Unions, Podesta at Fiscal Cliff Summit

Last week, President Obama promised to bring people together from all sides to discuss what to do about the fiscal cliff. By all sides, he apparently meant unions, Hollywood, and wild left interest groups. Here’s the guest list today at the White House for a summit on what to do about the fiscal cliff:

Mary Kay Henry, SEIU; Lee Saunders, AFSCME; Dennis Van Roekel, NEA; Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO; Neera Tanden and John Podesta, Center for American Progress; Bob Greenstein, Center for Budget and Policy Priorities; Laura Burton Capps, Common Purpose Project; Max Richtman, National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare; Justin Ruben, MoveOn; and Deepak Bhargava, Center for Community Change.

Oh yes, and Bono.



Obama won the presidency in large part thanks to the efforts of unions, who turned out thousands of members to boost Obama’s ground game. And Hollywood chipped in, too, by consistently portraying Obama as a put-upon genius, and Mitt Romney as an out-of-touch elitist. And that’s not even mentioning the musicians who toured with Obama to help him fill his less-than-enthused stadiums.

Now Obama is making good on his promises to unions, and his promises to Hollywood. This is the crowd that defines the Obama administration. They always have. Obama just doesn’t care who sees it anymore.

Hostess Permanently Closes Three Plants After Bakers’ Union Goes on Strike

 
Hostess told union workers they would close plants if the union went on strike.
The bakers’ union went on strike anyway.
So today Hostess closed three plants, including the one in St. Louis that has been in business for decades, in response to the strike.

Disgruntled unions workers at the Hostess plant in Cincinnati lashed out at the company last night after they found out their plant would be shut down.
They were told the company would close plants if there was a strike.
They went on strike anyway.


Over 600 workers will no longer have a job.
Nice work bakers’ union.

St. Louis Today reported:
Hostess Brands permanently closed three bakeries Monday, including a plant in St. Louis where 365 jobs were cut, in response to a bakers’ union strike that started Friday.
The bankrupt maker of Twinkies and Wonder bread said it’s trying to avert liquidating the entire company, and it shuttered three plants that were no longer able to produce and deliver products because of picket lines. The other plant closures are in Seattle and Cincinnati, where a combined 262 jobs were cut.
“We deeply regret this decision, but we have repeatedly explained that we will close facilities that are no longer able to produce and deliver products because of a work stoppage — and that we will close the entire company if widespread strikes cripple our business,” Hostess CEO Gregory Rayburn said in a statement.
Wholesale baker Hostess Brands, which is based in Irving, Texas, filed for bankruptcy in January and has fought with labor groups over contract changes throughout the year.
Thousands of members of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union went on strike beginning on Friday at plants across the country, including Oakland, Calif.; Seattle; and Orlando, Fla. The union represents about 5,680 of Hostess’ 18,300 employees.
On Monday morning, more than two dozen Hostess workers stood on a sidewalk outside the St. Louis bakery on North Broadway, refusing to cross the picket line set by striking bakers’ union members from Columbus, Ind. Some of Hostess’ St. Louis employees said they had worked at the plant that makes Hostess cakes and Nature’s Pride and Wonder breads for decades but were honoring the picket line to protest cuts to their salaries and other benefits.
The St. Louis Bakers Union Local 4 represents 200 employees at the plant at 6301 North Broadway.
It’s evident the bakers’ union is run by liberals, huh?

Age of Obama: NBCUniversal to Slash 500 Jobs

 

NBCUniversal, the corporation which routinely aids President Barack Obama via its news and entertainment channels, is prepping some pink slips.

The layoffs are part of a months-long concerted effort by parent Comcast to rein in costs by eliminating inefficiencies and duplications among staffs at various departments before year's end, an insider confirmed.
For example, three weeks ago, NBCU’s G4 network canceled Attack of the Show! and X-Play, causing dozens of layoffs. Two months before that, about 20 people at The Tonight Show were let go.
The reduction won't end until roughly 500 jobs are eliminated.

Obama Donor's Corporation Lays Off Employees Due to ObamaCare

Stryker Corporation has announced that it will close its facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96 jobs next month. It will also counter the medical device tax in Obamacare by eliminating 5% of their global workforce, an estimated 1,170 positions.

Jon Stryker is heir to the Stryker Corporation, one of the largest medical device and equipment manufacturers in the world. Stryker’s grandfather was the surgeon who invented the mobile hospital bed. The company now sells $8.3 billion worth of hospital beds, artificial joints, medical cameras, and medical software every year.
Stryker, a member of the Forbes 400 list, was one of the top five donors to the Obama campaign. Having donated $2 million to the Priorities USA Action super PAC, Stryker also gave $66,000 in contributions to Obama and the Democrat Party.
Prior to the 2012 election, Stryker contributed millions to help Democrat candidates in his home state of Michigan. He also gave nearly $250 million to groups supporting gay rights, transgenderism, and the conservation of apes. In January, his Arcus Foundation donated $23 million to Kalamazoo College for an endowment to fund a center for social justice leadership.
Stryker's corporation is part of an industry that has been a big loser at the hands of Obamacare. Having refused to get on board with the White House and the Senate Finance Committee when the law was being crafted in 2009, the medical device industry was punished with an excise tax of 2.3% of their revenues, regardless of whether they make a profit.
Republicans in the House have attempted to repeal the excise tax with a bill called the Protect Medical Innovation Act. The Democrat-led Senate, however, has refused to cooperate, saying that withdrawing the tax would cause Obamacare to come unraveled.
Last June, while the nation awaited the Supreme Court’s decision on the constitutionality of the individual mandate, Stryker Corp. announced that it was tying plans to slash 5% of its global workforce to the tax if the law was upheld. The company would do this as part of an effort to realize $100 million in annual productivity gains to offset the blow when the excise tax went into effect in 2013.
It seems Stryker Corp., like many other businesses in America, was waiting to see how the election turned out before making important decisions; it is now moving ahead with those planned layoffs in the wake of Barack Obama's reelection.

Karma! Top 5 Obama donor Jon Stryker of Stryker Corporation laying off nearly 1,200 workers because of ObamaCARE

obamacare-insertJon Stryker was one of the top five donors to the Obama campaign. Stryker donated $2 million to Obama’s Super-PaC: Priorities USA Action super PAC, and $66,000 directly to Obama. Now is company Stryker Corporation is laying off nearly 1,200 workers because of ObamaCare. Talk about karma! Next month alone (In December, before Christmas), Stryker will lay off 96 workers. Others will be laid off in the coming months. This isn’t even because of the ObamaCARE mandate that is causing a lot of businesses to lay off workers and switch full time workers to part-time. Instead, these layoffs are due to the ridiculous  medical device tax in Obamacare.

Prior to the 2012 election, Stryker contributed millions to help Democrat candidates in his home state of Michigan. He also gave nearly $250 million to groups supporting gay rights, transgenderism, and the conservation of apes. In January, his Arcus Foundation donated $23 million to Kalamazoo College for an endowment to fund a center for social justice leadership.
Stryker’s corporation is part of an industry that has been a big loser at the hands of Obamacare. Having refused to get on board with the White House and the Senate Finance Committee when the law was being crafted in 2009, the medical device industry was punished with an excise tax of 2.3% of their revenues, regardless of whether they make a profit.

Great start to the fiscal year! US deficit at $120 billion in October – Pace of $1.44 trillion for 2012-2013 fiscal year

obama-what-me-worryI’m going to really enjoy the next four years watching the idiots who voted for Obama or stayed home and didn’t vote for Romney last week complain, and moan as this country’s economy continues to go down. The first month of the 2012-2013 fiscal year is underway, and already we are looking at $120 billion deficits. Last October the deficit was ‘only’ $98 billion. At this pace, the 2012-2013 deficit will be $1.44 trillion.

The deficit has topped $1 trillion for each year of the Obama administration, more than double the amount in the last year of the Bush administration, prior to the Great Recession and Obama stimulus package.

White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 660,000 signatures, 50-state participation



Less than a week after a New Orleans suburbanite petitioned the White House to allow Louisiana to secede from the United States, petitions from seven states have collected enough signatures to trigger a promised review from the Obama administration.

By midnight Tuesday, more than 660,000 digital signatures appeared on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states, according to a Daily Caller analysis of requests lodged with the White House’s “We the People” online petition system.

A petition from Vermont, where talk of secession is a regular feature of political life, was the final entry.
Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures, the number the Obama administration says it will reward with a staff review of online proposals. (RELATED: Will Texas secede? Petition triggers White House review)
The Texas petition leads all others by a wide margin. Shortly before midnight Tuesday, it had attracted more than 92,400 signatures. But a spokesperson for Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday afternoon that he does not support the idea of his state striking out on its own.

“Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it. But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government,” according to a statement from the governor’s office.

A backlash Monday night saw requests filed with the White House to strip citizenship rights from Americans who signed petitions to help states secede. (RELATED: Anti-secession forces fight back with White House deportation petitions)

And in a similar nose-thumbing aimed at Texas’ conservative majority, progressives from the liberal state capital of Austin responded Monday with a petition to secede from their state if Texas as a whole should decide to leave the Union.

Late Tuesday a second group of Texans, this one from Houston, lodged their own White House petition. Secession-minded Texans, they wrote, “are mentally deficient and do not want them representing us. We would like more education in our state to eradicate their disease.”

Houstonian “Kimberly F” — The White House does not provide last names — submitted the petition. She told TheDC in an email that ”[w]e need both sides presented, or we all look like a bunch of fools.”

A group from El Paso, too, wants no part of an independent Texas. “Allow the city of El Paso to secede from the state of Texas,” their petition reads. “El Paso is tired of being a second class city within Texas.”

But smaller petitions like hers are a political side show of a political side show. One effort, aimed at Missourians, called for a nationwide catered pizza party to celebrate when the Show Me State left the U.S.  

States whose active petitions have not yet reached the 25,000 signature threshold include Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. 

Fourteen states are represented by at least two competing petitions. The extra efforts from two states — Missouri and South Carolina — would add enough petitions to warrant reviews by the Obama administration if they were combined into petitions launched earlier.
Other states with multiple efforts include Alaska, California, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.
The White House provides a 30-day window of time for petitions to reach 25,000 signatures.
Web surfers must register their names online with the White House before launching or signing a petition, but it’s not clear if the 640,000 signatures represent the same number of individuals, since the website permits signers to add their names to multiple petitions.
Individual petition signers, however, may only add their names once to any proposal.
The Daily Caller emailed White House deputy press secretary Joshua Earnest for comment, asking if the Obama administration was taking the grassroots effort seriously.
“Does the President see this as a bunch of Gov. Romney’s supporters blowing off steam after the election?” TheDC asked. “As an earnest show of disaffection with the direction of the country? As something else?”
Earnest did not respond.
The most recent petition to attract at least 150 signatures — the threshold required before the White House adds a petition to its searchable database — suggests a way out, even if a state or two were to take the secession talk seriously.
A Darlington, South Carolina man proposed Tuesday that the Obama administration ”allow the states that have asked to secede to do so and form their own NEW nation together.”
That effort only has 24,000 more signatures to collect before it could find its way into the West Wing.


David Martosko
Executive Editor

Liberals on Secession, Then and Now

by: AG

I do not advocate secession. I’m pretty much with Erick Erickson on this.
However… I completely understand the anger of the people who are petitioning.
There are a lot of people in this country who feel like no matter what they’ve done or said over the last four years, that the federal government has ignored them at every turn.
All that aside, this is just ridiculous…
A White House petition gathering force calls for citizenship to be stripped and exile for anyone who signs a petition in favor of a state’s secession.
“Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported,” the full petition reads.
The title of the petition is, “WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.”
Liberals have such a short memory.

liberals called for secession in 2004.

When Bush Was President, Secession Talk Was Cool.

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